As was promised, below is a picture of new British Dragon design, this one specifically for Stanobol Inject. A lot of info is still missing though, like how exactly will the “BD-PSS” look like, where the prods are available, etc.
Well, I’m really being proud of myself right now. I thought that only limited number of people are reading this blog and with the workload at my job I grew really lazy writing it. I guess I just got a new kick now
I stopped checking BOS regularly after I was banned twice, so it took me a while noticing, but today I got to see this new Body of Science topic. And basically it’s all about this site and the posts posted here. Awesome.
I though about writing a response on the topic but hey, I’d be banned just the same, so why bother.
The biggest misunderstanding (I could say lie, but everyone can interpret any post his/her own way) is that I’m attacking BOS for some weird reasons, trying to push Asia Pharma products, threatening Bill, attacking honest UGLs, etc. I hope this post will clarify matters. And will probably be misunderstood and misinterpreted.
Firs of all, YES, I like Asia Pharma products. I don’t hide it, I’m proud of it. I also like Zambon, Organon, Schering, Norma, etc. The manufacturer doesn’t really matter as long as the products is of good quality. I’ve come by many good products in my time and have learned to appreciate quality. And I’ve tried many bad products that in the end completely ruined my cycle. Either they were not even close enough to potency advertised, or they were completely mislabeled, usually both. I’ve had the luck of never getting a serious infection but know people that did. For all those reasons I don’t like Underground products. I want to be as good as I can be and for me what really matters is the end result which only quality products can give, even if I have to pay more for them. Be all you can be.
I have a sponsor. Who doesn’t? I appreciate the fact that I can get gear for less money or free, and if all it costs me is to have a banner on the site, hell, why not. Now, to make it a conspiracy theory out of it, that’s a bit too much though. I saw numerous posts on the subject of Asia Pharma ownership with numerous suppositions, but I better get it out in the open now. I own Asia Pharma. I also own British Dragon. I bought them from the dividends received from my shares in Schering-Plough. And in case you didn’t know the whole reason we took over Organon was cause we really wanted to have Deca and Susta in our portfolio. And the only reason I’m doing this blog thing is cause I’m bored. Doh.
The funniest part of the whole post is the “lie about registration etc” part. Now I’m a cautious person (I think) but the wealth of info AsiaPharma has provided regarding their products manufacturing is incredible in comparison to other brands. Yet it seems it is never enough. Show this show that. Once they do - “o, you faked it”. If the guy took the time to read the articles on this page, he could at least also post the pharmacy links in the older posts. I’ve been to those and they actually sell Asia Pharm. I guess he only shows info that supports his claims and ignores the rest. Tc tc tc, what would your old teacher say about that?! His summaries all all wrong too, as in many of the articles quoted there is no mention of the AP brand whatsoever, although I do hope there is something educational in all of em. But in the big picture I must be writing all that just to advertise Asia Pharma. I hope I get big bucks out of it. Wait; I already own all the companies.
Here’s a funny one:
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Furthermore, you never know where the UGs are made. Well, actually, you can imagine. Remember the last drug related movie you’ve seen (doesn’t really matter which one) - the drug lab you’ve seen in that movie is exactly what an UG lab looks like. Well, probably looks even better, remember, there’s a lot more money in drugs. And that product you inject every day for 3 months. When you’re buying a car you would like to have all the possible Airbags, electronics, and god knows what else just so you would be safe in case you crash. But you might not crash. Actually, probability of a crash is a lot lower than probability of an infection from a product made in a dusty trailer-park that you will inject every day for 3 months.
OK, I know this analogy is a bit off but I hope it gets the message over. You want to be the best and only the best products can get you there.
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TRANSLATION
Buy asiapharma.com eurohormones.com new britishdragon.com overpriced UGL because we asiapharma eurohormones britishdragon tell you that it is HG.
And all other UGLs and HG producers are bad for you.
Now if anyone can bother to read the actual post, he’ll realize that It’s all about using Human Grade gear without any specific brands. How this person sees this article as a bashing of any other GMP human grade steroids is beyond me.
As far as Bill’s bashing is concerned, it’s quite simple. I’m a critic and critics criticize. I’ve written many times I have great respect for his work but there are things that he could do better. And that is exactly as the articles were meant - as Constructive criticism meant to further improve his work. Any person that considers himself to be an educated person knows it for what it is. I know Dextroz went to college so he obviously must have skipped that class - here is a description of constructive criticism by wisegeek.com:
Constructive criticism is criticism kindly meant that has a goal of improving some area of another’s person’s life or work. Often constructive criticism refers specifically to the critique of someone else’s written or artistic work, in perhaps a teacher/student setting, that would allow that person to further improve the work or to improve their approach to future endeavors. However, constructive criticism can also apply to a critical reasoned analysis of a person’s behavior, as in a patient/therapist setting or a group therapy setting.
I did not, however, write anything without proper argumentation. A wise many would see that my actual articles are meant to improve peoples awareness on the subject at hand and also giving them some food for thought. Only a highly prejudiced person would think an article in which I suggest Bill to tell us more details on the testings as a threat. But in the end that what it’s all about. The whole point of the thread on BOS is blemishing the reputation of anyone who would ever say a good thing about Asia Pharma. Basically, if you like the stuff, you are bad.
But Dextroz is right in one thing, ones writing speaks a lot of the author. Now I look at his posts he’s doing exactly what he’s accusing others of doing. He makes claims that he cannot support in any way but with a “Translation” of posts of other people (me mainly). He attacks everyone indiscriminately without checking their background - most people in attacked in his thread have far more integrity than himself, and attacking such people without substantial evidence is plainly stupid (not me, but S.B.C. for example).
Asiapharma owners and shills milo, barron, s.b.c., dexterj, mrdext, methan, kendall, Dolcedoberman, peanutbutter and the lot we are not interested in what you have to say.
Some of these guys are admittedly spammers, but other are definitely not.
Furthermore he refers to other articles on the internet which are all written in the same style that suggest they are the work of the same group/person. And those same references use evidence like “adjusted” articles by William Llewllyn.
And among all this, writing how disgusting everything is, accusing people of making threats, he goes and threatens the first person who replies to his thread:
Now shut it or someone else will do it for you.
Sherlock, BOS is a forum and people are supposed to make comments, what did you think, you’d just make 500 accounts and have it all to yourself?!
Judging by all this I can’t help but believe this is simply a tactic to make the other guys look bad while you try to sell as much of your own brand. Otherwise, why so much rage, so much hatred, attacking like a small rabid dog? The dog’s got no teeth but barks in the night nevertheless.
Well, I still learned couple of thing from this:
British Dispensary lost the license for Androlic and not Anabol. My bad.
Cause so many people believe British Dragon is associated to Asia Pharma and EuroHormones these days we might get BD HGH? That would be good and sure as hell is worth looking into it.
Forums really are full of s*** these days.
The roumors have been floating around for some time about British Dispensary, one of the most dianabol makers in the world, loosing their license to produce their brand name dianabol called Anabol.
All of us have come to appreciate the pink tabs that became synonymous with Dianabol as a good product for a reasonable price. This may come to an end now though.
As British Dispensary was well accepted on the steroid market so did they become a problem to the DEA and other law enforcement agencies around the world. Although British Dispensary did not violate any laws directly their products were mainly sold outside of Thailand where they are registered and illegally exported worldwide. It is estimated that as much as 80% of their production was exported directly by the British Dispensary to various trading companies world-wide, and of those 20% that were sold in Thailand great majority was also exported to other countries.
Couple of months ago rumors emerged that British Dispensary lost their license to produce Anabol in Thailand. These rumors stipulated that different reasons for their loss of license but I was told by a very reliable source that the main reason their license was revoked was because the US authorities used their influence with Thai government and pressured them into suspending their license. At the moment it seems that British Dispensary will not be able to apply for a new license nor it is clear what will happen with other Dispensary anabolic steroids products (at the moment they still produce Azolol and Androlic). Another problem are tensions between the owners of British Dispensary - the company is family owned and one portion of the family wishes to cease production completely while the other portion would like to continue production…
It is said that Dispensary still has large stocks of Anabol on stock (they cannot produce new batches but they can still sell old batches) and they are still available on the market. However, I fear that soon we will be faced with the same problem as with most other brands - there will still be demand for Anabol and as Dispensary will not produce it anymore the counterfeiters will fill the void. In the end this will turn out to be another stupid interjection by US government that will force users to change a quality product for dangerous counterfeited or underground products.
Asia Pharma has published their production video (published on Asia Pharma website as well) on YouTube. It is of a bit better quality that the one on their site and most important of all you can watch it full screen
I hope all larger Steroid manufacturers would give us insight into their manufacturing process this way, It would be a lot easier to distinguish between the good, the bad, and the ugly.
We’ve had an interesting discussion with my buddies in the gym the other day and the topic of the day was UG or HG.
I know this is on many people’s minds these days and the main question people ask themselves is:
Why would I pay USD 120.00 for 10 ml of Sust if I can get it from a buddy for 40?
Well, unfortunately, it’s not that simple and many people don’t realize they’re being cheap with their lives. In a way, buying steroids is like buying a car. Sure, you can get a cheap Chevy, but if you pay more you can get a Mercedes. Almost everyone knows the difference and most people, If they had this option, would opt for the Merc. Why? Leaving all the subjective reasons like looks aside it is a fact that Merc is a better car, especially when safety is concerned. In this sense, Human Grade steroids are the same - they are way safer!
Sure, 60 bucks difference is huge. But, just like with a car, you get way more. Usually UG prods are under-dosed or don’t even contain the substance you want to get. With human grade prods you will always know that you are getting exactly what you pay for, in the declared dose. Just like you know the Merc is a lot faster than the Chevy.
Furthermore, you never know where the UGs are made. Well, actually, you can imagine. Remember the last drug related movie you’ve seen (doesn’t really matter which one) - the drug lab you’ve seen in that movie is exactly what an UG lab looks like. Well, probably looks even better, remember, there’s a lot more money in drugs. And that product you inject every day for 3 months. When you’re buying a car you would like to have all the possible Airbags, electronics, and god knows what else just so you would be safe in case you crash. But you might not crash. Actually, probability of a crash is a lot lower than probability of an infection from a product made in a dusty trailer-park that you will inject every day for 3 months.
Ok, I know this analogy is a bit off but I hope it gets the message over. You want to be the best and only the best products can get you there.
I’ve had some really good experience with Asia Pharma products for more than 6 months since I’ve first used them. But I’m camera shy so no pics of me.
One of our readers has no qualms about taking pictures and he has has sent us a picture of him and the effect the Asia Pharma products have produced, according to him Trenabolic is by far superior product he has ever used. A picture speaks a thousand words.
Asia Pharma has registered new products in Thailand:
Asia Pharma is announcing registration of following new products:
1. Stanobolic tablets (Stanozolol 10 mg in 100 tablets box)
Thai FDA registration number of Stanobolic is 1C 153/52
2. Oxyanabolic tablets (Oxymetholone 50 mg in 100 tablets box)
Thai FDA registration number of Oxyanabolic is 1C 152/52
3. Tamoxol tablets (Tamoxifen Citrate 20 mg in 20 tablets box)
Thai FDA registration number of Tamoxol is 1C 157/52
I hope these products will be available in Thailand soon. Than again, Cyp and Deca are still not available in Thailand. So I hope all are available soon. More info on Asia Pharma website.
And a new pharmacy stocks AsiaPharma:
G.M. Drugs
Open : 12.00 - 24.00
18, Kitpanit Building
Patpong Road ,Suriwongse,
Bangrak, Bangkok 10500
Thailand
I don’t know if simply didn’t pay that much attention the past years but I am noticing an increasing trend this past year. It seems the steroid related infections are on the rise…
Sure, there were some posts on the forums like “I had a bad infection, my injecting spot is swelling like hell” but there were quite rare. It could be that pure text doesn’t draw that much attention and now that there are plenty pics out there it is more noticeable. However, Digital cameras out there for a decade now and I’m sure that some individuals would record infections if they had one. This past year things changed though. On basically every forum you can see treads of people making pics of nasty “side-effects” of using non-Human Grade gear. Yesterday I saw this hideous video on an Australian blog here
WARNING - if you have a bad stomach, don’t watch it!
Now this vid is hideous in more than one sense. Sure, it’s gross to look at for all but health care pros - I don’t faint at sight of blood but I could barely watch this. It’s more hideous if you start thinking of the cause of this. Now, it doesn’t say what the guy was using, but I really doubt it was your every day orig Schering Sust that caused this. If I would have to guess something more exotic was injected into that biceps (UG), and if it was a shoddy UG product with high bacteria levels, than someone is directly responsible. And that is the hideous part, somebody deliberately made an unhealthy product and sold it for profit knowing really well that an infection is not only possible but likely to occur.
If we get back to the trend of rising infections there are couple of possibilities why the trend is rising. Some bodybuilders believe in the conspiracy theory - As most forums are sponsored by some or another UG manufacturer they believe that the moderators on those forums deliberately banned people who would make any negative reports of the product that caused the infection, sepsis, etc… As people using one brand would manly visit and post on one forum and other forums would not allow posts on other brands anyway, it went unnoticed. This theory has one major flaw though, as boards are still sponsored the info would not be possible to publish just as before. Also, the competitor boards would happily post negative info on other brands.
Second possibility is user awareness. As a general rule whenever a newb would report a problem it would be accounted to that persons inexperience (Supposedly only newbs get infections). So these reports would be hammered down to the point when the newb would himself believe it was his own problem. As actual test reports started to circle in the past year these guys realized that the products are to be blamed for the problems and reports started to spread more openly.
Yet another theory is that the products themselves have degraded. In the time when there is one new Underground Lab every week and the competition is so intense the prices have to drop. In normal economy that would be really great, but as Underground Labs are not regulated a drop in price also means a significant drop in quality. To top it all, the raw materials are actually harder to get in china due to more control attributed to 2008 Olympics. As Chinese have huge demand but little materials they react as a drug dealer would - they dilute or simply swap the raw materials for something else. And as the quality worsens the infections rise.
I personally think that the truth lies somewhere in between the above. Sure, boards filter and suppress negative reports, but you could post them on other boards without any problems. User awareness has increased in the past years but If I had a hole in the size of a tennis ball in my butt nobody would be able to convince me it’s simply improper injection procedures - I’d scream it out with all the details. The last theory in my mind is the most credible, but I wouldn’t say it’s only that - as UGs didn’t use much in the way of advanced pharma equipment before, they cant really use less (unless they moved to a really dirty location, say trailer park…). So, all of these theories are somewhat correct but as all things in life it’s a mix of everything that lead to this. The simple solution to all of this is quite simple though, stay away from Underground products.
Ivan Tsikhan, Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery, Justin Gatlin, Floyd Landis, Barry Bonds… just a few names that were caught doping - Were they guilty of crimes or were they just pushing their bodies to the limit and beyond to show us the possibilities of human body?
In some industries it is practically encouraged to get better results with pharmaceuticals and with help from different doctors. Plastic operation, Botox, Viagra, Collagen injections are just a few examples to enhance the abilities and looks.
If we just look at show business, how many actresses are using Botox to slow their age and how many actors were using HGH to enhance their looks. The look is everything, the make or break of current show business.
It is OK for an actor to visit a surgeon and change whatever needs changing, in fact they are encouraged to do so by their agents, producers, whatever. In porn 99% of actors take Viagra and consider it work tool. Some people object, but generally this is accepted and the law allows it. Yes, this is alright as show business is multi-billion dollar business and these “enhanced” people get to pay more taxes… It doesn’t stop there though, what cannot be changed on the body is later changed on the pictures and most pictures of models these days are digital altered. These are all legal ways to improve the functionality and achievements, nothing is wrong here.
But if the Marion Jones wants to beat the World Record and she is using Erythropoietin (EPO) she is the Devil herself. Wait a minute. Wasn’t she just using all the possibilities she had for that 1/100 of a second, so that she could satisfy our needs for the game itself. The World Record and Gold medals are worth something. First place is the winner, the second isn’t first and the third place is remembered by no one.
Yes, you could say that this is not the sportsmanship, doping is cheating. However, in that case it is not fair that some athletes are training for years using high altitude training, world class nutrition, best coaches and the best equipment they could get their hands on while others were using only old equipment, bad coaches, some were also malnourished. So this cannot be considered sportsman-like either. If we start saying what is OK and what is not, we should really go deeper than just saying doping is bad, everything else is OK. Let’s be frank, most athletes are using some kind of doping, the only difference is they don’t get caught. And the only reason they don’t get caught is because they have more money - more influence on the doping committee (Jonson-Lewis), better coaches who are more aware what can be detected and when, and they have access to better doping substances. BALCO affair should have thought us that. If all should have an equal chance why is Armstrong allowed to use a 100k bike?
Here is an intriguing idea - Why not giving athletes a choice? Yes, you can use doping, but it is your decision only. It is your body, it is your life. Sure would make all the events more interesting… The whole concept of legalized doping would become better for us as we would get new better substances, they would be better researched, and a lot safer athletes would be under constant medical supervision. And of course, no more UG’s.